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Ultra Runners,What shoes do you turn to for running long? Do you alternate to another shoe or brand during your race? Do you prefer the rugged trail shoes with a lot of tread below your foot or are…Continue
Started by Dorette Sommer-Franks. Last reply by Ken Sep 13, 2012.
Hey Runners,I have been sidelined all year with a very painful neuromuscular strain and could use your help and experience. I was training for AR50 and ran a 50K prior to AR50. 8 miles into the 50K…Continue
Started by Dorette Sommer-Franks. Last reply by Dorette Sommer-Franks Jul 20, 2012.
What are some of your favorite real foods you like to eat during an ultra run or Ironman(+) event? When do you eat, how much? Love shared ideas.DoretteContinue
Started by Dorette Sommer-Franks May 8, 2012.
Comment by Dorette Sommer-Franks on March 2, 2012 at 1:18pm Hey Ultra Runners,
Tell me what races you have this year. Are you fueling with Vega? Which products.
Comment by Jason Loutitt on March 2, 2012 at 2:58pm BEFORE I use the Whole Food Smoothie every morning. Also put the EFA oil on rice cakes in the morning with jam, and cook with it through the day.
I fuel on the run only with the Endurance Gel every hr in training and every 20 min in a race. The Electrloyte Hydrator and Pre-Workout Energizer will also be used during races with the EH used after every steam or Bikram Yoga session as well.
AFTER I take the Recovery Accelerator and then the Performance Protein. Later on I also take a serving of VEGA one.
Cheers!
Jason
Comment by Ken on March 22, 2012 at 11:27pm So far I've got the following on the list:
Products: very few of anything. I generally train with real food, like quinoa and bean burritos, gorp, home made bars, etc. I make smoothies at home with whole foods, and cook pretty well when I'm home and haven't felt the need for any supplements. I mean, when you're burning that many calories a day and eating fresh, whole foods (mostly raw), you get LOADED with nutrients.
I do occasionally throw in some Udo's oil, and after long workouts (4+ hours) and races will do a few days of glucosamine / lysine / glycine supplements just to be on the safe side for recovery.
Right before a race I'll do some training with Perpetuem and a few Roctane gels, just because I use those in the first 5-7 hours of a race so I want to train with them for a few long runs prior to the race.
Comment by Dorette Sommer-Franks on March 23, 2012 at 11:11am Runners,
What are some of the way's you recovery to stay strong through the years? Have any of you been injured? What injuries and how did you mend? What type of cross training do you perform to stay injury free?
I was registered for American River 50 miler and had to pull due to a piriformis syndrome and a tight psoas. First time ever being injured. I consider myself the queen of recovery but obviously, this body needed a rest (no break).
Comment by Jason Loutitt on March 23, 2012 at 11:13pm Too bad. AR50 is fun. I did it last year. A first injury can be so tough but like tough runs, races and training, you can learn, grow and get better from it if you wish.
I have had a mid substance tear in my knee pcl ligament from hockey hyperextension. Glucosamine and Condroitine for 2+ years to get normal running gate back and heal. Had a SI joint problem. Time off and a injection fixed it after a month.
Think recovery secret now for me is Bikram Yoga. I also studied Pilates and tried to learn as much as I could about healing. Other than that I think a Massage therapist who gets into those rotators - gimelis ect. would be my key for ya.
Comment by Dorette Sommer-Franks on March 26, 2012 at 3:15pm Jason,
One note on cooking with an EFA oil. EFA oils have a low smoke point and denature in chemical composition and no longer retain the healthful benefits of being an EFA once heated. Instead, they become unhealthy fats.
Instead try coconut oil or olive oil.
Comment by Jason Loutitt on March 26, 2012 at 3:20pm Very good point. THX!
Comment by Alyson on May 8, 2012 at 4:53pm I just began the journey to distance running (first half marathon and full marathon this year) and am looking into ultra -running, too! Any advice for a newbie? :)
Comment by Dorette Sommer-Franks on May 8, 2012 at 11:25pm If you are already stepping up the distance to Ultra running within the first year of your 1/2 and full marathon, you must be pretty excited about running. Yes, a few pointers, and would love to know what others can add.
1) Take recovery weeks about every 2-3 weeks; reduce the volume and your body will reward you.
2) Log your nutrition, so you can look back to see what worked and what did not work.
3) Let the races/event you run leading up to your Ultra compliment your ultra. Example, if you are running a hilly 50K, one or two 10K's are fine, but focus on training on a terrain that that mimics your priority race.
4) Learn to eat real food - Vega works perfect for Ultra's - lots to chose from, but the processed bars, gels, and electrolyte drinks can slow down digestion.
Comment by Tiffany Phipps on May 31, 2012 at 12:35pm I would love to know everyone's thoughts on quantity of fuel (gel's, food, etc) during an ultra race. One gel every 20 minutes seems like a ton in a 50 miler!
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