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Anyone else experience stomach cramping after drinking WFHO?

Hey all,

I've been using the Vega WFHO for over a year now and I can still remember how AWESOME I felt when I first started using it. I would drink it (with my nose plugged over the sink) and instantly feel energized and ready to go! It made me want to go vacuum or cut the grass or clean my room and extremely happy. However, like I said, this was over a year ago.

Now that I'm a LFRV (low fat raw vegan) though, my stomach can't seem to handle it. I get terrible stomach cramps and it feels like there are a bunch of pins n needles in my stomach. This has happened 3 times and I'm scared to try having it again...are they not 100% raw? (i know the maca isn't)

What on earth could be the matter?


OH and I'm leaving for hawaii on monday and will be taking along a few vega food bars for the plane ride there and back!!

Tags: 811, WFHO, fat, hawaii, low, raw, running, vegan

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Hey Ted! Glad to hear that you are enjoying Vega so very much - all of the products are impeccable in my opinion, and I'm happy to hear you feel the same. Oh, and WFHO should be mainly raw. I'm not sure where I read that, but I know that many of the ingredients are raw.

If I were you, I would try a few things:

1) Add more water to less WFHO, or simply do less WFHO throughout the day and see how that feels.
2) Start taking some extra digestive enzymes when you drink it.
3) If you do not already do this, then I would try blending it with some fruit. Blueberries or banana might be an easy first-go.
4) Try going off of the product for a few days, and then slowly start using it again. Sad but true, maybe your body just needs a break. Even if WFHO is the perfect, whole-food smoothie if you are drinking it just about every day (how many do you drink a day?) then it could be getting to be too much fibre build-up in your body.

I know that sometimes I would feel bloated and heavy after drinking it twice a day, sometimes three times daily. I took it out of my diet for a couple of days, ate a variety of other foods, and then re-introduced it. It helped, and I'm drinking 11/2 or 2 servings daily.

May I suggest a lovely spring cleanse?
Try taking some apple cider vinegar about 1 tbsp. before or after the WFHO. Good luck!
The bloat that Aubrie Rose is describing and possibly your pins and needles has nothing to do with the product being raw. The culprit is probably to FOS (fructoolgiosaccaride). When I used Vega everyday I bloated very badly. My naturopath looked at the ingredients and explained to me that a lot of people can't tolerate FOS. What I do is rotate my smoothie proteins around. Vega one day, the new Vega Sport Protein another, Smoothie Infusion, straight hemp protein and I use all sparingly. This solved the problem for me. Using the extra digestive enzymes Aubrie suggests would probably help too.
i actually experienced the same problems!
thankyou for your advice
Most of his products do not respect foods combinations, i like the alternated mono-diete, one type of food(raw) at each meal, better digestion, no gas, better assimilation, etc. Keep it simple, eat like animals.
gives me a lot of gas
When a wide variety of people experience problems using a supplement, it is usually a sign that something is not good in the product. I suffer arthritis or gout like symptoms after using WFHO as directed and can only tolerate the product by mixing it with juices and even then it is hard on the stomach and still produces gases. If you are one sensitive to WFHO, use sparingly or don't use it at all because there is something not right with this product.
I too have experienced a lot of the same things being reported here (consistently taking WFHO for 1+ year also). I tried many or these suggestions (going to a smaller serving, etc.), with no real change. Adding more probiotics and enzymes to my diet helped to decrease the frequency and severity, but I've just ended up resorting to the recipes in "Thrive" that don't necessarily call for WFHO because I just don't see any change.
EEP! Apple Cider vinegar is poison! All vinegar is highly toxic...It excessively stimulates the thyroid which leads to heaps of problems. Repetetive use of vinegar will also harden the liver due to the acetic acid it contains.

Tania Frechette said:
Try taking some apple cider vinegar about 1 tbsp. before or after the WFHO. Good luck!

Darrick,
I stopped taking it completely now. I now just get all my amino acids from fruit and small amounts of vegetables/greens. WFHO was too concentrated with dehydrated protein for me. Since I stopped taking it I haven't had any problems at all.

Darrick said:
I too have experienced a lot of the same things being reported here (consistently taking WFHO for 1+ year also). I tried many or these suggestions (going to a smaller serving, etc.), with no real change. Adding more probiotics and enzymes to my diet helped to decrease the frequency and severity, but I've just ended up resorting to the recipes in "Thrive" that don't necessarily call for WFHO because I just don't see any change.
I only mono meal now and have never felt better! Today I ate 40 bananas because they were starting to ripen very quickly and I still have like 80 left lol. but like I said, I've never felt better!

francis camire said:
Most of his products do not respect foods combinations, i like the alternated mono-diete, one type of food(raw) at each meal, better digestion, no gas, better assimilation, etc. Keep it simple, eat like animals.
Whow! Ted who told you acetic acid hardened the liver...grossly misinformed! Acetic acid (Ethanoic acid) is present just about everywhere and if you understood organic chemistry you'ld know its role is important in many factors...ever heard of acetate? Trace amounts are formed with the ripenning of fruit. It naturally occurs and is produced by the body, it's found in sweat and in vaginal fluids (thought to be an antibacterial). Granted it can affect cellular PH and is not stored at the cellular level. The acetyl group derived from acetic acid plays a role in every form of life, it's needed to bind with coenzyme A for the metabolisation of fats and carbohydrates.

Pure acetic acid is highly corrosive, but vinegar has only 5-8% volume acetic acid. At worst it is a skin/respiratory irritant at levels greater than 10% (liquid on skin) or 50 ppm (air). Here's the CDCs guide to chemical hazard: acetic acid and this is about industrial volumes of chemical acetic acid.

As for thyroid stimulation...??? If that were true then would it not be a treatment for hypothyroidism?
You stressed at all? I can't see it been the WFHO if you've been using it for over a year... try taking a look at anything else you've changed since the cramping, or are you adding something different to your smoothies?

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